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	<title>Comments on: Picks Camping: SL Scam or Moneymaking Slam-Dunk?</title>
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		<title>By: Babie Lionheart</title>
		<link>http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/picks-camping-sl-scam-or-moneymaking-slam-dunk/2408/comment-page-1/#comment-11366</link>
		<dc:creator>Babie Lionheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JVA system has many faults &amp; failures.
The system fails to correctly count 30 days (all too often it count to 33 instead), no indication is given when last payout was made so it will ban an AV for removing a pick after 30 days or sometimes upto 33 days from last payment.
As already mentioned above, the system can require an AV wait upto 7 days when returning for second click, that second click won&#039;t count if payment for that day is at max (sorry we have reached maximum payout), and it will be 7 days from that second click regardless of how long since first click.
Many times the system will tell say you have already been paid when it never gave you a bean.
System Bans are permanent across all JVA systems so an AV can delete ALL JVA picks that HAVE paid them (banned anyway so why not) this means upto 9 payers lose out because of the JVA system banning AV&#039;s, all too often falsely.
Jonash Vanalten NEVER replies to IM&#039;s requesting a ban be looked into regardless of the known long term faults of the system he sells.
The PPRS system is much better giving more info to it&#039;s users but still hass a few minor faults in the power it gives to the owners to use it as a fraudulent tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JVA system has many faults &amp; failures.<br />
The system fails to correctly count 30 days (all too often it count to 33 instead), no indication is given when last payout was made so it will ban an AV for removing a pick after 30 days or sometimes upto 33 days from last payment.<br />
As already mentioned above, the system can require an AV wait upto 7 days when returning for second click, that second click won&#8217;t count if payment for that day is at max (sorry we have reached maximum payout), and it will be 7 days from that second click regardless of how long since first click.<br />
Many times the system will tell say you have already been paid when it never gave you a bean.<br />
System Bans are permanent across all JVA systems so an AV can delete ALL JVA picks that HAVE paid them (banned anyway so why not) this means upto 9 payers lose out because of the JVA system banning AV&#8217;s, all too often falsely.<br />
Jonash Vanalten NEVER replies to IM&#8217;s requesting a ban be looked into regardless of the known long term faults of the system he sells.<br />
The PPRS system is much better giving more info to it&#8217;s users but still hass a few minor faults in the power it gives to the owners to use it as a fraudulent tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunze Zsun</title>
		<link>http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/picks-camping-sl-scam-or-moneymaking-slam-dunk/2408/comment-page-1/#comment-11310</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunze Zsun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: It&#039;s actually Jonash Vanalten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: It&#8217;s actually Jonash Vanalten.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunze Zsun</title>
		<link>http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/picks-camping-sl-scam-or-moneymaking-slam-dunk/2408/comment-page-1/#comment-11309</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunze Zsun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is another problem, observed with the JVA system:   I added the pick and clicked the sign.  I came back 48 hours later and clicked the sign.  It directed me to return in 1 day.  I returned more than 24 hours later and clicked the sign.  It told me that I had already been paid, and to return next month!  I checked my SL transactions history, and there was no payment from that location or the owner of the sign.  

I contacted the owner, who told me to delete the pick, add it back, and try again.  I did that, but got the same result.  I sent a notecard to Josh Vanalten, but have not received any response yet.

I have JVA sites in picks and have not had any problems with them.  One of them is even owned by the same person as owns the one with the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another problem, observed with the JVA system:   I added the pick and clicked the sign.  I came back 48 hours later and clicked the sign.  It directed me to return in 1 day.  I returned more than 24 hours later and clicked the sign.  It told me that I had already been paid, and to return next month!  I checked my SL transactions history, and there was no payment from that location or the owner of the sign.  </p>
<p>I contacted the owner, who told me to delete the pick, add it back, and try again.  I did that, but got the same result.  I sent a notecard to Josh Vanalten, but have not received any response yet.</p>
<p>I have JVA sites in picks and have not had any problems with them.  One of them is even owned by the same person as owns the one with the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Evansmom Goodspeed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evansmom Goodspeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree ... but my gripe is that if they don&#039;t reload their accounts, they still get the site visit but the avie gets nothing. Thanks for your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree &#8230; but my gripe is that if they don&#8217;t reload their accounts, they still get the site visit but the avie gets nothing. Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran Laval</title>
		<link>http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/picks-camping-sl-scam-or-moneymaking-slam-dunk/2408/comment-page-1/#comment-11169</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran Laval</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go back the day after and you should get paid by picks camping, the limit is there to assist management of the system. A sensible owner will always have that amount of Linden dollars in their account on any given day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go back the day after and you should get paid by picks camping, the limit is there to assist management of the system. A sensible owner will always have that amount of Linden dollars in their account on any given day.</p>
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