Comments on: SL navigation helpers and scenic sign-on screens http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/sl-navigation-helpers-and-scenic-sign-on-screens/2004/ VTOR - Virtual TO Reality, featuring Second Life Sun, 05 Jun 2011 05:36:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: TD Goodliffe http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/sl-navigation-helpers-and-scenic-sign-on-screens/2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10980 TD Goodliffe Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:16:53 +0000 http://www.vtoreality.com/?p=2004#comment-10980 Thank you for the information that these nav helpers have been there awhile and aren't new but it's the first time I remember seeing them come up automatically as default anyway and they were new to me :) Thank you for the information that these nav helpers have been there awhile and aren’t new but it’s the first time I remember seeing them come up automatically as default anyway and they were new to me :)

]]> By: Diana Allandale http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/sl-navigation-helpers-and-scenic-sign-on-screens/2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10978 Diana Allandale Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:28:40 +0000 http://www.vtoreality.com/?p=2004#comment-10978 Interesting that your movement and camera controls came up as "on" automatically. Mine didn't. Both those UI have been around for many builds, actually, but needed to be turned on manually (under View menu). Because I use the up/down/side arrows for movement, I've always left that one turned off. But the camera controls are far easier for me to use than the keyboard, so I do have that one activated. It's easily moveable and I have mine in the upper right corner where it's out of the way. In fact, I have it placed over the top of my animation hud in one of my avatars and that works very well to limit the clutter. Because you are right about the space too many HUDS take up. In fact, I've recently stopped purchasing anything that requires one as I want to actually see Second Life...not a bunch of control screens. So overlapping them (I've another hidden behind my mini-map, for example) helps. :) Interesting that your movement and camera controls came up as “on” automatically. Mine didn’t.

Both those UI have been around for many builds, actually, but needed to be turned on manually (under View menu). Because I use the up/down/side arrows for movement, I’ve always left that one turned off. But the camera controls are far easier for me to use than the keyboard, so I do have that one activated. It’s easily moveable and I have mine in the upper right corner where it’s out of the way. In fact, I have it placed over the top of my animation hud in one of my avatars and that works very well to limit the clutter.

Because you are right about the space too many HUDS take up. In fact, I’ve recently stopped purchasing anything that requires one as I want to actually see Second Life…not a bunch of control screens. So overlapping them (I’ve another hidden behind my mini-map, for example) helps.

:)

]]> By: justpassingby http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/sl-navigation-helpers-and-scenic-sign-on-screens/2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10977 justpassingby Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:15:43 +0000 http://www.vtoreality.com/?p=2004#comment-10977 /me smiles those "new features" have been there forever. :-) /me smiles

those “new features” have been there forever. :-)

]]> By: Prokofy http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/sl-navigation-helpers-and-scenic-sign-on-screens/2004/comment-page-1/#comment-10973 Prokofy Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:04:34 +0000 http://www.vtoreality.com/?p=2004#comment-10973 Those little camera annoyances aren't new, in fact they are the camera thingies you could always get when you could access them from the view menu as a pull-down option. I remember as a very new newbie, I was instructed to use those to be able to turn the angle around 360. I found it very clumsy, and was so glad when I finally learned the much easier trick of hold down alt/left click/arrows on numeric keypad. I think that's just much easier to use as a touch typist. So the Lindens thought it would be "helpful" to impose this thing on everyone because they also think it's "helpful" to newbies -- but it isn't. Teeaching them alt/left click is much better, and in fact now, there is the additional feature that if you left click and hold on your avatar, that also rocks the view around 360. The worst thing about this camera thing is that you can X it out, but not forever. It will be back on the next log-on. There's no way to get rid of it permanently. And that's just inexcusable. Those little camera annoyances aren’t new, in fact they are the camera thingies you could always get when you could access them from the view menu as a pull-down option. I remember as a very new newbie, I was instructed to use those to be able to turn the angle around 360. I found it very clumsy, and was so glad when I finally learned the much easier trick of hold down alt/left click/arrows on numeric keypad. I think that’s just much easier to use as a touch typist.

So the Lindens thought it would be “helpful” to impose this thing on everyone because they also think it’s “helpful” to newbies — but it isn’t. Teeaching them alt/left click is much better, and in fact now, there is the additional feature that if you left click and hold on your avatar, that also rocks the view around 360.

The worst thing about this camera thing is that you can X it out, but not forever. It will be back on the next log-on. There’s no way to get rid of it permanently. And that’s just inexcusable.

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